From: Stanley J Mscisz Product: Reebok All Terrain Super OR
Review: My review of the Reebok All Terrain Super OR shoes:
They have excellent flexibility
They need no break in time
They have excellent tread for the trails
I have not tested yet for water drainage but, just by looking
at them they appear to be made well for drainage.
I wasn’t expecting to be putting two shoe posts up in two days – but here we go. Reebok VERY kindly shipped me the *other* 2016 All Terrain series shoe to look at and write up my first thoughts – and today we got a couple of pairs of the All Terrain Thrill – a new, wider, more plush trail shoe for their very popular All Terrain series.
If you haven’t – go take a read of the All Terrain Super OR first look I put up yesterday. I’ll get into a more direct comparison of the various shoes in due course, but it’s worth knowing what your options are if you’re looking at new shoes for the 2016 OCR season.
The Thrill is a very different shoe to the Super OR. From the bottom up – the tread isn’t as aggressive, the mid-sole is thicker, they use real laces, and a slightly padded tongue – the toe box is wider too. It’s much more shoe.
Weight: 11.5oz for mens, 9.3oz for women’s
Drop: 10mm (10mm at the front, 20mm at the rear)
The market for this shoe is for people who need more support – not everyone in OCR is elite. Not everyone needs minimal and fast in their shoe. Some of us need some comfort. Maybe you run longer distance events, and need more support? Maybe you’re simply looking for more protection from the rocks.
The Thrill does retain Reeboks signature H2O drain, which is easily my favorite feature of the All Terrain – at the cost of possibly letting stuff *into* the shoe, they also let stuff get out quickly too.
In fact, if you compare it to the early 2015 All Terrain Thunder 2.0 shoe – it’s more comparable. It’s comfortable, but now has the signature All Terrain tread.
So – which Reebok is best for you?
If you’re looking for a comfortable ride – plush midsole and wide toebox, with great grip and drainage – the All Terrain Thrill is for you.
If you’re looking for a light weight, tight fitting race shoe – with grip, drainage and the most durable upper yet, you want the All Terrain Super OR.
Weight: 7.8oz for mens, 6.4oz for women’s
Drop: 5mm (7mm at the front, 12mm at the rear)
This is a racing shoe. Unlike the Thunder 2.0, this is not a training / casual shoe. There will be a Thrive model coming soon for that. This is for hitting the courses, completing obstacles, and getting you through quickly – not for long miles on mountains.
According to Reebok, the shoe weighs 8oz – and if you’ve worn either previous model, it’s about the same weight. It has an 8mm drop, but frankly, with the minimal mid sole, it feels much lower. The shoe is definitely a light weight, minimal feel shoe.
They’ve kept the things that worked – this is key, because in many area’s, the shoe DID work well. The tread pattern and depth don’t appear to have changed. The lugs are aggressive and if anything like previous generations, they work well. The H2O draining is effective and easily the most unique, most appreciated feature of the shoe.
They’ve changed things that didn’t work – the material of the upper – at least in the first generation – failed all the time. I wore mine out quickly, with my wide toe box. The second generation was more resilient, but in my Thunder 2.0’s, it did feel plasticy at times. Having said that, I wear my Thunder 2.0’s all the damn time – just not for racing. The new CorDura material they use here is considerably improved over last year.
I have no idea why they included speed lacing. In OCR, thats a recipe for getting gummed up and difficult to use.
The fit – this is polarizing. This is a race day shoe, so the fit is designed to be snug. I get that. However, I have a fairly wide toe box, and these feel tight to me. This is what ripped the sides out of my old All Terrain Super’s. However, the material feels much sturdier, and the actual FEEL is comfortable. I could wear these all day, and doubt I’d blister – but if you’re looking for a wide, roomy and more comfortable fit, these won’t be the shoes for you. I’ll have to wear these for a while to see if they’re the shoes for me.
Watch my video review, below – lots more detail in there. Also scores are being given BEFORE a test wear – and I’ll update once I’ve got miles behind me – I feel I can make educated scoring now, due to the similarity with previous generation shoes.
Since launching with the All Terrain Sprint and Super – and to a lesser extent, the Outdoor Wild in 2014, Reebok made it clear they wanted to put out a trail shoe for the OCR scene. The Sprint and Super, while having some mixed reviews on their durability and fit, were a *very* solid start.
Like they do with other shoe lines, they listen to feedback. Reebok are in touch with the scene, and not just from the elite level – several of our own community have made visits to the Canton, MA headquarters of Reebok, working with the market research team to provide feedback and insight into the direction they’re going.
And we now have some of that development in hand. The Reebok All Terrain Thunder 2.0 is more of a cushioned, less minimal trail shoe. Just the start of the 2015 shoe releases.
Mine arrived yesterday, and for your shoe porn pleasure, I did an unboxing video, compared them to some other shoes I had – specifically the Inov-8 TrailRoc 245, the Icebug Spwider OLX and the Salomon Fellraiser.
With a 7mm heel to toe drop, these are more cushioned, less minimal and not so aggressive alternatives to the existing shoes. (This was previously and incorrectly stated as 12mm)
Yesterday, we posted a short video of the new Reebok All Terrain sneakers, covering it’s features and selling points. LINK
Today, they got worn and tested for real.
All Terrain – the name suggests they can take anything right? Certainly at an OCR we hit everything from mountain trails, ski slopes, rocky roads and asphalt – and as OCR specific shoes, shouldn’t these be able to take on everything with grace?
Here in New England, the trails are mostly under inches of snow. The mountains and ski slopes have been taken over by lunatics on little plastic strips, hurtling down our prime running ground with no regard for sanity – so it’s tough to take these shoes out into the natural OCR terrain to test.
So lets test what we can – this morning I headed over to Crossfit 696 in Gardner MA and setup a station to run through the Civilian Military Combine pit – then planned a 5k road route that would take me out and back, using asphalt roads, icy sidewalks and slushy side streets.
I chose their new Charlie pit – which translates into a 5 min AMRAP of:
5 shoulder to overheads with a 75lb barbell
7 burpee box overs (burpee, clear a 20″ box)
9 American kettlebell swings (20kg)
(for the record, I scored 72)
The shoes did great – they were stable when I had the barbell up in the air, and felt solid on the box as I was stepping up and over it. While a pair of dedicated cross training shoes would have been more solid, I didn’t feel like I was standing on marshmallows, and the cleats were firmly planted.
Then I threw on some cold gear and hit the roads – again, I was impressed with the level of ground feel from these. They certainly feel more minimal than I was expecting them to – for a pair of shoes with cleats and rock plates, footing was responsive and firm, and I had a good feel for what was going on. Once I hit the slush and ice, things got slippy of course – these aren’t Icebugs – but the cleats dug in as much as they could.
The upper of the shoe felt really light – and the laces they provide are very thin – I could see them getting jammed up with mud and water very easily – this is definitely a shoe to wear warm socks with in winter (Darn Tuff for me this AM).
Overall, I’m impressed. They felt lighter and more minimal than the Salomon Fellraisers (which are also a good choice for people who like more structure).
I recently received a pair of the new Reebok All Terrain shoes – and wanted to give a video walk through of the shoe and compare it to a pair of Salomon Fellraisers and my current favorites, Icebug Spwider OLX
Apologies for the black video in the last two minutes – audio is fine.
A quick Pro and Con list – from my entirely subjective opinion and experience!
Good sole protection
Too light for some
Durability (remains to be seen)
Not available yet